I get a lot of personal email from the corn burning site. At least two or three a day. More during a coldsnap. :-) Somebody wrote to me the other day and he surmised from reading all my posts that corn burners are not ready for prime time. I don't know. I'm not sure what I answered back, I am not even sure I even did answer. It's a tough question. Can I see grandmother in Topeka using a corn burner? No. I guess I can't. Can I see some investment banker in the suburbs burning corn? No. I have trouble with that one too, unless it's just the right banker.
I am not sure how I feel about that either. I am happy to be saving the money I am saving. I am happy to provide this site to those who want to learn about corn burning. But thinking about the logistics of having the ten other houses on my block also burning corn is rather a mind boggling thought. Everyone getting corn deliveries, feeding the burner in the morning, cleaning the burn pot, dumping their ashes, dealing with the quirks of their stove. I guess I just can't picture that either. So, where does that leave the corn burning industry?
The masses flooding to buy stoves could give the industry a real shot in the arm. Vast improvments could happen with these stoves over the next couple years. Better burn control would be one really great thing. A better monitoring system that would exactly dish out the corn dependent on burn temperature and air flow. We could eek much closer to the high efficency burn rates the natural gas folks have now. We could burn cleaner, and have less klinker and ash.
Or, what could happen, is the industry could profit-take. We could be dealing with the problems of klinker build-up and fussy stoves ten years from now. That would totally suck.
I think everything is really going to depend on the next few years. What is going to happen to energy prices? What is going to happen in this country if we have to pay ten dollars for a gallon of diesel? No, I can't see my neighbor cleaning up his corn burner, feeding it, dumping the ash, and then putting on his suit & tie to heading off to his investment banking job every morning, now. Today. With today's energy prices, even as shocked as we all are with them. If they got worse though, my neighbor is going to want to choose life over freezing to death.
--ja
Wednesday, December 21, 2005
Monday, December 19, 2005
continued information.
OK, that last post did look kind of rough. Poor spelling and puctuation optional. Sorry about that. I was just afraid if I didn't get it posted, pretty soon a week would have gone by.
So, the Icynene insulation salesman came for a visit. I want to get a bid on insulating our attic which currently has no insulation. What we settled on was, I am going to shim the sidewalls out to six inches. They will fill the sidewalls with an average of six inches of foam. Because my house is old, it is built using what is called balloon construction. Since the sidewalls are filled with wood chips I am going to use my shopvac to reach down and suck out as many of the wood chips as possible. They will spray foam down the side walls, I am hoping I can get down two or three feet. On the ceiling of the attic I am going to put in a secondary rafter so I can raise the ceiling of the room by a foot. Then they will spray five inches of foam under the roof deck. This should get me R-18 on this third floor where I previously had R-Nothing.
All for the cost of $7356.00
Not a cheap project. And in a way, being a corn burner, a little hard to justify. I am planning on burning about $1100 worth of corn this season. If I insulate the third floor, I am thinking best case, I will still burn $700 of corn. Sure a savings of $400/yr, so it will take me how many years to pay this off? But, we can't expect to be buying $1.40 corn every year either. If corn goes up to $6 some fall, I would be counting every little kernel and thinking about them going through our uninsulated roof if I don't do it now.
...Plus of course we get some more living space. Me personally, I would like to build a bedroom suite up there. Hot tub, little kitchenet, maybe an entertainment center. Hell, me and the wife would just move up there and leave the bottom two floors to the kids! :-)
Right now, surprisingly, the house does stay warm enough. As I type it is zero degrees out. It got down to -19 last night. We have the thermostats set at 70 degrees (which, thanks to corn, I am betting makes ours the highest set thermostat on our block) and the house stays pretty darned close to that mark. To do so though the Traeger TPB-150 corn burner I am running is operating flat out. It has been on full burn, feeding corn for the past 24 hours. Basically it is running at 100% duty cycle, which no household appliance is really supposed to do. I think it is hard on it, hard on the burn pots, hard to get the clinker out of the pots. I bet we are using more electricty than normal because the water pumps to the zones are running continously as well. I think that though the boiler can seem to keep up, it will be a lot happier once we get the third floor insulated.
So, the Icynene insulation salesman came for a visit. I want to get a bid on insulating our attic which currently has no insulation. What we settled on was, I am going to shim the sidewalls out to six inches. They will fill the sidewalls with an average of six inches of foam. Because my house is old, it is built using what is called balloon construction. Since the sidewalls are filled with wood chips I am going to use my shopvac to reach down and suck out as many of the wood chips as possible. They will spray foam down the side walls, I am hoping I can get down two or three feet. On the ceiling of the attic I am going to put in a secondary rafter so I can raise the ceiling of the room by a foot. Then they will spray five inches of foam under the roof deck. This should get me R-18 on this third floor where I previously had R-Nothing.
All for the cost of $7356.00
Not a cheap project. And in a way, being a corn burner, a little hard to justify. I am planning on burning about $1100 worth of corn this season. If I insulate the third floor, I am thinking best case, I will still burn $700 of corn. Sure a savings of $400/yr, so it will take me how many years to pay this off? But, we can't expect to be buying $1.40 corn every year either. If corn goes up to $6 some fall, I would be counting every little kernel and thinking about them going through our uninsulated roof if I don't do it now.
...Plus of course we get some more living space. Me personally, I would like to build a bedroom suite up there. Hot tub, little kitchenet, maybe an entertainment center. Hell, me and the wife would just move up there and leave the bottom two floors to the kids! :-)
Right now, surprisingly, the house does stay warm enough. As I type it is zero degrees out. It got down to -19 last night. We have the thermostats set at 70 degrees (which, thanks to corn, I am betting makes ours the highest set thermostat on our block) and the house stays pretty darned close to that mark. To do so though the Traeger TPB-150 corn burner I am running is operating flat out. It has been on full burn, feeding corn for the past 24 hours. Basically it is running at 100% duty cycle, which no household appliance is really supposed to do. I think it is hard on it, hard on the burn pots, hard to get the clinker out of the pots. I bet we are using more electricty than normal because the water pumps to the zones are running continously as well. I think that though the boiler can seem to keep up, it will be a lot happier once we get the third floor insulated.
Saturday, December 17, 2005
Back online!
This is sort of rough. I haven't even spell checked it. Tomorrow will be my first day back to work after being off for a week. I don't want to leave it unposted. I will follow up later in the week. So, here it is, my post for Dec 18th:
I have been out sick for the past week. Ugh! It was a nasty chest cold that really got me down. So, not much has happened on the blog or the web site this past week. Today is the first day I have totally human again.
I had a couple of events this past week. The first, happily was the day before I got sick, rather than the day after. I went down to check on the furnace and discovered the fire seemed to be weak. It was not burning strong like normal and the furnace should have been at full burn. The draft fan was blowing but I felt like it wasn't really putting out that much air. I did a little more checking and felt like the draft fan was not putting out anywhere near the normal amount of air. This is the second time I have had trouble with a draft fan. This time though the warrenty on the boiler had expired.
Rather than contact Traeger and deal with them shipping me one out of Canada and the delay involved there I went downtown to a place that had a "motor repair" sign out front. I figured they could either repair it or maybe they would have a line on a new one. As it turns out, the motor repair place was pretty nice. They took one look at my blower fan and said "You a corn burner or pellet?" Wow, I guess they know their motors! I confessed to corn. They said "You been oiling this motor?" Ummmm. Oil? Uhhhh, no, I didn't know I was supposed to oil it.
So, I walked out of the place with a brand new blower fan and motor
assembly, just exactly like the one I brought in. ...It seems I am not the only idiot who doesn't know to oil the draft fan so the place keeps a good stock onhand for people like me. In fact, I was told that I was the second person that day to have exactly the same problem. The owner said that the dust from the corn settles into the bearings. No big problem, just oil the fan twice a season and everything is fine. Don't oil them, however, and the bushings overheat really fast and the motor is ruined. You can see here in this picture that I have pointed out the oil weep holes. If you zoom in on the picture, you can see the holes packed with dust. This fan does not run right, it can be used as a spare for a few days. Even though I have now oiled it, it still doesn't run at the speed it should. Still, if I needed to get by for a couple of days, it could be pressed into service.
The oiling process is quite easy.
The oil bottle the motor place sold me had an extendible tube that came out of the bottle about eight inches. It was simply a matter of putting the tube into the weep hole and filling it up with oil. The motor place suggested a very heavy oiling considering the environment the motor runs in. Any excess oil will simply drip out. I would say I put about 1/8th oz. of oil into this motor before it began to drip out. Really not much dripped out either so it must have been quite hungry.
So, quite an adventure. I really hate running into stuff where I don't know to do something. I didn't see anywhere in the Traeger manual where it says to oil the draft fan motor twice a season. Now I know though.
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The second thing that happened this week is I had scheduled up a meeting with the Icynene Insulation Sales Person. A few of you have written to me asking about what kind of house we are trying to heat with corn. I can give you a very vivid discription. It is 3500 square feet of living space, just shy of one hundred years old. It has seventy five windows, 50 of which are the age of the house. There is an 1,100 sq foot third floor/attic space that has zero insulation. The side walls are insulated with (mouse friendly) wood chips. I have seen barns that would be easier to heat, it is pretty much a miracle we can heat the place at all!
I have done some checking around and find that Icynene is some of the best foam insulation out there. There are a couple of reasons why I want to go foam. First off, with no real bearing on the quality, I have done too much insulation without a mask in my past. So putting in the pink fiberglass myself, unless I am wearing a resperator, is totally out of the question. But yet, I have done so much of it in the past that I can't quite bring myself to spend the money to have it done. So, that is weighing in my mind. The main thing though, I think the foam insulation is much better than fiberglass. What I am thinking about here is redoing the entire third floor. With foam insulation it can be sprayed right against the roof. I don't need any air space. That will allow me to finish the very top of the house, a smaller fourth floor space into storage.
The other thing that is very nice is foam insulation is a vapor and air infiltration barrier. So, no need for visqueen inside. No more bats in the attic any more.
I have been out sick for the past week. Ugh! It was a nasty chest cold that really got me down. So, not much has happened on the blog or the web site this past week. Today is the first day I have totally human again.
I had a couple of events this past week. The first, happily was the day before I got sick, rather than the day after. I went down to check on the furnace and discovered the fire seemed to be weak. It was not burning strong like normal and the furnace should have been at full burn. The draft fan was blowing but I felt like it wasn't really putting out that much air. I did a little more checking and felt like the draft fan was not putting out anywhere near the normal amount of air. This is the second time I have had trouble with a draft fan. This time though the warrenty on the boiler had expired.
Rather than contact Traeger and deal with them shipping me one out of Canada and the delay involved there I went downtown to a place that had a "motor repair" sign out front. I figured they could either repair it or maybe they would have a line on a new one. As it turns out, the motor repair place was pretty nice. They took one look at my blower fan and said "You a corn burner or pellet?" Wow, I guess they know their motors! I confessed to corn. They said "You been oiling this motor?" Ummmm. Oil? Uhhhh, no, I didn't know I was supposed to oil it.
So, I walked out of the place with a brand new blower fan and motor
assembly, just exactly like the one I brought in. ...It seems I am not the only idiot who doesn't know to oil the draft fan so the place keeps a good stock onhand for people like me. In fact, I was told that I was the second person that day to have exactly the same problem. The owner said that the dust from the corn settles into the bearings. No big problem, just oil the fan twice a season and everything is fine. Don't oil them, however, and the bushings overheat really fast and the motor is ruined. You can see here in this picture that I have pointed out the oil weep holes. If you zoom in on the picture, you can see the holes packed with dust. This fan does not run right, it can be used as a spare for a few days. Even though I have now oiled it, it still doesn't run at the speed it should. Still, if I needed to get by for a couple of days, it could be pressed into service.The oiling process is quite easy.
The oil bottle the motor place sold me had an extendible tube that came out of the bottle about eight inches. It was simply a matter of putting the tube into the weep hole and filling it up with oil. The motor place suggested a very heavy oiling considering the environment the motor runs in. Any excess oil will simply drip out. I would say I put about 1/8th oz. of oil into this motor before it began to drip out. Really not much dripped out either so it must have been quite hungry.So, quite an adventure. I really hate running into stuff where I don't know to do something. I didn't see anywhere in the Traeger manual where it says to oil the draft fan motor twice a season. Now I know though.
.
The second thing that happened this week is I had scheduled up a meeting with the Icynene Insulation Sales Person. A few of you have written to me asking about what kind of house we are trying to heat with corn. I can give you a very vivid discription. It is 3500 square feet of living space, just shy of one hundred years old. It has seventy five windows, 50 of which are the age of the house. There is an 1,100 sq foot third floor/attic space that has zero insulation. The side walls are insulated with (mouse friendly) wood chips. I have seen barns that would be easier to heat, it is pretty much a miracle we can heat the place at all!
I have done some checking around and find that Icynene is some of the best foam insulation out there. There are a couple of reasons why I want to go foam. First off, with no real bearing on the quality, I have done too much insulation without a mask in my past. So putting in the pink fiberglass myself, unless I am wearing a resperator, is totally out of the question. But yet, I have done so much of it in the past that I can't quite bring myself to spend the money to have it done. So, that is weighing in my mind. The main thing though, I think the foam insulation is much better than fiberglass. What I am thinking about here is redoing the entire third floor. With foam insulation it can be sprayed right against the roof. I don't need any air space. That will allow me to finish the very top of the house, a smaller fourth floor space into storage.
The other thing that is very nice is foam insulation is a vapor and air infiltration barrier. So, no need for visqueen inside. No more bats in the attic any more.
Monday, December 05, 2005
Corn stoves for homes are hot item
Corn stoves for homes are hot item
An article in the Star Tribune attests to the popularity of corn burning stoves. We are defined as a "Consumer Craze" rather than a good idea who's time has come. Still, it is good to see this. The more people interested, the more companies are going to be interested in the corn stove building business and I have to think that is good for all of us.
On an unrelated note, it sure is cold our there today. It is sitting at seven degrees right now, I don't think we have been out of the single digits (unless you are talking the minus ones) for the past 24 hours. The house has stayed warm today but we have burned a lot of corn. I am getting a burn pot ready to change over maybe later tonight. It seems like when it is really cold like this and the boiler is burning hard, it pays to swap the pots out often. The only real trouble is I am getting low on wood pellets to start fires with so I am either going to have to find some or find some way to light fires within the next couple of weeks if it stays cold like this. I think I have about half a bag of pellets left.
An article in the Star Tribune attests to the popularity of corn burning stoves. We are defined as a "Consumer Craze" rather than a good idea who's time has come. Still, it is good to see this. The more people interested, the more companies are going to be interested in the corn stove building business and I have to think that is good for all of us.
On an unrelated note, it sure is cold our there today. It is sitting at seven degrees right now, I don't think we have been out of the single digits (unless you are talking the minus ones) for the past 24 hours. The house has stayed warm today but we have burned a lot of corn. I am getting a burn pot ready to change over maybe later tonight. It seems like when it is really cold like this and the boiler is burning hard, it pays to swap the pots out often. The only real trouble is I am getting low on wood pellets to start fires with so I am either going to have to find some or find some way to light fires within the next couple of weeks if it stays cold like this. I think I have about half a bag of pellets left.
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I think some of our problem when it gets to these really cold days is that our Traeger TPB-150 Corn burning boiler can keep up with the demand of the house, but *just barely*. Part of this is an attic insulation issue (we don't have any), but I think part of it also is just the size of this house and number of windows. We have 75 windows in this place! Great view of the river valley, but expensive to heat. We have been running our gas fireplace insert way more than we want to this year and so we are thinking some of putting in a corn burning insert instead. This would take some load off the main boiler and I think make the whole place easier to heat. We are hoping to add attic insulation right after the first of the year when the tax credits kick in.
So shopping around, this is the best looking fireplace insert on the market and other Quadrafire products are highly rated, so I am hoping this is just as good. I get some time to do some additional research. I guess they are running about nine months backorder right now!
I am using a new tool to make this entry. Our tie-wearing friend from down the street, Andrew, suggested I look into the Blog This tool for the Firefox browser. To make this page, I went to the Quadrafire page I wanted to comment on and did a right click with the mouse to choose "blog this" . It worked pretty slick! Thanks Andrew!
I think some of our problem when it gets to these really cold days is that our Traeger TPB-150 Corn burning boiler can keep up with the demand of the house, but *just barely*. Part of this is an attic insulation issue (we don't have any), but I think part of it also is just the size of this house and number of windows. We have 75 windows in this place! Great view of the river valley, but expensive to heat. We have been running our gas fireplace insert way more than we want to this year and so we are thinking some of putting in a corn burning insert instead. This would take some load off the main boiler and I think make the whole place easier to heat. We are hoping to add attic insulation right after the first of the year when the tax credits kick in.
So shopping around, this is the best looking fireplace insert on the market and other Quadrafire products are highly rated, so I am hoping this is just as good. I get some time to do some additional research. I guess they are running about nine months backorder right now!
I am using a new tool to make this entry. Our tie-wearing friend from down the street, Andrew, suggested I look into the Blog This tool for the Firefox browser. To make this page, I went to the Quadrafire page I wanted to comment on and did a right click with the mouse to choose "blog this" . It worked pretty slick! Thanks Andrew!
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